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Residence Converted From Rental

Posted by taxguru on August 20, 2006

 

Q-1:

Subject: 1031/primary residence
 
Dear Mr Kerstetter,

I very much enjoy reading your information and I have a question about Primary/1031 combo.

We moved into one of our rentals just over one year ago (7/05) and now my husband has a job offer in TX.

My tax man says if we sell now we must recapture $27K and have a cap gains around $100K . Since we have not had the property for 5 years. Since we have not lived in it for 5 years the 2 year exemtion does not even come into play, not even a portion.

Is this your take on the IRS ruling?  If not what is the ruling?

More Info Please:

Was the former rental property that you are now living in acquired as a replacement property in a 1031 exchange

The answer to that will determine my response to your query.

Kerry Kerstetter

Q-2:

Mr. Kerstetter,

Yes we did a 1031 in 7/03 then moved into the house in 7/05.

I did read your information on resident/1031 and see that it agrees with our accounting that we need to keep it 5 years. So here is the final link to the question. Since we will be moving out before our 24 months in the property due to a new job in TX and this does fit into the exclusion. How long is the exclusion recognized. Can we move out before our 24 months under the exemption and then keep it until our 5 years is up and then sell it and use the exemption at that time? Or do we need to rent it and then 1031 into another rental.

 

A-2:

You are feeling the effect of the recent law limiting the use of the Section 121 exclusion for homes that were originally acquired as part of a 1031 exchange.  This means that the home you are currently occupying is statutorily ineligible for the tax free exclusion if it is sold any time before July 2008, five years after you acquired it.  This provision of the law does not allow for the pro-rated exclusion, which would be available to you if you had just purchased the home directly instead of as a part of a 1031.

As I’m sure your tax advisor showed you, a sale of this home before that date would not only subject the gain on this home to taxation, but all of the previously deferred gains from the earlier properties as well.  This will include the higher rate on depreciation recapture, as well as California state taxes.

There are some different options for you to consider.  Holding onto the house until July 2008 and then trying to use the Section 121 exclusion is a slight possibility; but not a completely safe one.  As you can see in IRS Pub 523,  most of the language describing qualifications for the reduced exclusion mention a job related sale and not a job related change in occupancy.  It’s obviously a fine distinction, but one that could cause problems with a sale so long after you vacate the home.

Depending on how much your gain is, the pro-rated exclusion maximum may not be enough to shelter all of the profit.  However, if the Texas gig doesn’t last long and you move back into the Calif home, you have a potential to meet the 2 out of 5 year rule for real.

You would also still have some depreciation recapture to pay taxes on.  You also need to decide what you will do with the Cal home while you wait out the time until July 2008.  If you rent it out, you will add to the depreciation recapture, plus make the property’s character more positively appear as rental than personal.  For example, if you were to sell it in late 2008, looking back five years previously, most of the time would have it used as rental, with a small percentage as your primary residence.

If, on the other hand, you leave it empty as a personal second home, you may have a cash flow problem if there are mortgage payments to make.

While there is obviously no perfect answer to this quandary, you may want to give serious consideration to converting your home back to rental and then disposing of it via a 1031 exchange into rental property or properties in Texas, which will be easier for you to manage.

Anyway, those are the thoughts that came to me as I reviewed your emails.  I hope they help you work out a suitable strategy.  Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter


Q-3:

Good Morning Mr. Kerstetter,

My husband and I are amazed at how simply and complete you have made the explanation so we can understand our options. Thank you.

Now maybe I have one other option. The house is free and clear! I am a real estate broker here in CA, so I list the property but it does 
not sell for 1.8 years. As you know our market is very slow. In my neighborhood we have only had one closed escrow this year.So before we move I list the property and rent it to a tenant with the understanding that it is on the market for sale. But do to the market the house does not close escrow until July or Aug of 2008. Would that show our intent to sell the house upon acceptance of the job but market trend did not allow us to sell. Would that show intent to keep the use of Section 121?

Even if the job in TX does not last we intend to keep TX as our primary do to no State Tax we are both 58 and our $$ is in bank accts. and not all our rentals have been 1031 into TX. We will come back and buy a condo in CA for a 2nd home in a few years when the market settles.

PS. Are you sure you don’t have room for one more client. My tax man says I am always coming up with situations that challenge him.

A-3:

You can try that approach; but you had better maintain extra tight documentation of the fact that you were honestly trying to sell the home for a reasonable price for the area.  As you should know, the burden of proof that you are entitled to use the reduced Sec. 121 exclusion rests completely with you; so you need to feel very confident that you have plenty of documentation to support your case.  Your tax advisor should be able to help you compile that documentation so that it is sufficient to provide him/her with the confidence to be able to claim the exclusion.

You should clarify with your current tax pro the meaning behind his comment.  A good tax advisor should welcome challenging issues such as yours.   They are what help us learn and grow as tax practitioners.  I learn new things about the tax laws every single day, from work with my clients, as well as from emails from readers.  If your current advisor is telling you that because he doesn’t want to have to deal with anything new, it is time to find a new tax pro.  If he is saying that to point out that you are making him stretch his brain, that’s not a reason to be concerned.  I say that a lot to some of my clients whose transactions force me to delve into new and interesting areas of taxation that I would never otherwise be involved with.

Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter

Follow-Up:

Thank you for all your advise and information.
 
 

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Hybrid Vehicles

Posted by taxguru on August 20, 2006

 

Q:

Subject: Car
 
I have just purchased a 2006 Toyota Prius and am now told there is a tax credit. I have purchased through my company. Do you know about this. Please advise. Thanks.

A:

The Toyota Prius is one of the alternative fuel vehicles that qualify for the special Federal tax credit.

Texas writer Kay Bell has been posting a lot about this in her blog, such as at:

http://dontmesswithtaxes.typepad.com/dont_mess_with_taxes/2006/08/time_running_ou.html

http://dontmesswithtaxes.typepad.com/dont_mess_with_taxes/2006/07/pace_accelerati.html

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/auto/fuel-efficient/20060809a1.asp

I’m surprised the Toyota dealer didn’t have info on this as well since it is one of the big selling points for the Prius.

Kerry

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Residence Sales, Estimated Taxes

Posted by taxguru on August 20, 2006

 

Q:

Subject: Capital gains on sale of residence for surviving spouse?

Two questions:

I have read that a surviving spouse can retain the $500,000 capital gain exclusion on the sale of their primary residence if the house is sold in the same year of death.  Is it not within one year of death?  If not, a spouse could die in late December, making it practically impossible to qualify for the $500,000 exclusion.  I am aware of the stepped-up basis that will occur for the deceased spouse’s portion of the home, but with substantial appreciation in some states, that extra $250,000 in exclusion can make a big difference for some taxpayers.

I exercised ISO’s in January of this year, which will trigger AMT.  I might sale those shares before year-end, triggering a disqualifying disposition but eliminating tax preference on the ISO exercise.  Do I need to make estimated tax payments on the possible AMT tax that might occur if I do not do a disqualifying disposition?

Thanks,


A:

The maximum exclusion under Section 121 is $250,000 per person.  This means that in order to claim a $500,000 exclusion, there have to be two names on the 1040.  This is the case for the year a spouse dies, but not for the subsequent year.  If the surviving spouse does remarry and file a joint return for the year after the first spouse died, that new spouse won’t be able to claim the $250,000 exclusion for the half of the home that was owned by the deceased spouse.

As you hopefully know, the preceding discussion is only important with people living in non-community property states, where only half of the accumulated gain on the residence is wiped out at death.  In community property states, all of the gain is erased.

In regard to estimated tax requirements, you should be working with your professional tax advisor to make sure you have paid in at least enough by 1/15/07 to avoid any penalty.  If your 2005 AGI was low enough, this usually means that you only have to pay in as much as your 2005 taxes were, even if your 2006 taxes turn out to be much higher.  There is no benefit to paying in more than the minimum to avoid the penalty, as long as you pay the rest by 4/16/07.

If you want to check out the rules yourself, get Form 2210 and its instructions.

Good luck.  I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter

Follow-Up:

Thanks!
 

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Posted by taxguru on August 20, 2006

Companies May Convert To ‘Cash Balance’ Pension Plans

 

Three Red Flags to Consider When Screening New Tenants – I would add asking about the potential tenant’s favorite movies.  If Pacific Heights is near the top, definitely stay away from that person.  We’re still scared to death to have any tenants after our experiences with a psycho who used that movie as his game plan against us 16 years ago.

 

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DemonRat Holidays

Posted by taxguru on August 20, 2006

Both are usually celebrated on April 15.

Courtesy of Worth1000

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Posted by taxguru on August 19, 2006

Who’s Blocking the Taxpayer Accountability Bill?

Same-sex couples hail pension overhaul

IRS Enlists Help in Collecting Delinquent Taxes

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Catching Up On Tax Returns

Posted by taxguru on August 19, 2006

 

Q:

Subject: need to file back taxes
 
Dear Mr. Kerstetter,
My husband and I have not filed taxes for several years and are being counseled to file the last five years tax returns.
We have lived the entire time in Tulsa, Ok and have participated in numerous home-based (network marketing) businesses during these years. Mostly just breaking even but a couple of good years. I am currently sorting all my receipts and documents by years.  We need someone to prepare our tax returns.  I like your philosophy and wonder
  • if you are available for hire,
  • what is your rate,
  •  are you familiar with clients who want to “get back in the system”,
  • what steps I am to take to  get our paperwork in order for your prepartion?
Thank you,


A:

You are definitely making the right move in trying to get caught up with your income tax returns.  It sounds as if you might have fallen for one of the very common misconceptions people have; that if they didn’t have a net profit in their business, they aren’t required to file a tax return. That is dangerously wrong, because if IRS were to check on you, they would assume every penny of gross revenue you received was pure profit if you failed to file a tax return disclosing your operating expenses.

In addition, even if you are overpaid for the past years, IRS has a penalty for procrastinators and will refuse to refund anything for any tax return more than three years delinquent.  However, if you owe money for any year, even five years ago, IRS will demand payment of that tax, along with substantial interest and penalty charges.  It’s a double standard that IRS is very fond of.

Working on five years worth of info is a large undertaking.  Since you are obviously familiar with computers, you would be well advised to use QuickBooks to organize your data for the past years, as well as the current and future ones.  Having your data on QB will make it much more efficient for you to submit that data to your tax preparer.  I have tons of info on using QuickBooks on my website.
 
In regard to my being able to prepare your tax returns, I wish I could help; but I already have too many clients to take care of properly; so we are still trimming back on the difficult clients and are not accepting any new ones at this time. 

Unfortunately, we don’t have anyone to whom we could refer you. If you haven’t already done so, you should check out my tips on how to select the right tax preparer for you.

I wish I could be of more assistance; but I wish you the best of luck.  

Kerry Kerstetter

Follow-Up:

Thanks for your response!
We’re awfully close to Arkansas…are you sure you dont know anyone over this way…starts with a _ ends with a _?
=)  An acquaintance recommended Charlie Chung then when we went to find him and found out he had been indicted for tax fraud!! Yikes.
Anyway, sure appreciate the info and the so very helpful website of yours.
 
 

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Timing of Sec. 179 Deduction

Posted by taxguru on August 19, 2006

Q:

Subject: Sect 179 Question

Kerry,
I love your site. Very informative. I had another question on Sect 179. I am looking at purchasing an automation piece of equipment for my pharmacy. While I need the asset now, I don’t need the Sect 179 deduction until 2007. The company has offered to install now and rent it to me until 2007 where I can convert it to a capital lease. Would this allow me to take the Section 179 deduction in 2007?

Thanks,


A:

As always, this is the kind of decision process that you should be working on with your own professional tax advisor.

However, as an illustrative example, I can address your situation in general.

First is the lease then buy scenario. That would not fly with IRS because the Sec. 179 is only available for the first year the asset is acquired and placed into service. In your case, you would be placing it into service in 2006 and buying it in 2007, making it eligible for the Sec. 179 in neither year.

Next is your assumption that you don’t need to claim it in 2006. You are most likely being short-sighted with this conclusion.

If you already have plenty of deductions, and are thus going to show a low taxable income for 2006, a large Sec. 179 deduction wouldn’t even be possible due to the taxable income limitations. However, if you were to buy the asset and start using it in 2006, you could claim the full maximum Sec. 179 on your 2006 4562. The excess above the deductible amount would be automatically carried over to your 2007 tax return, where it would be compared against your 2007 taxable income. It sounds as if this is what you are really after, so that might work out best for you without the need to play any short term leasing games.

Your personal tax pro should be able to run some pro-forma tax returns for 2006 and 2007 to show you how this scenario would work for you.

Good luck. I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter

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Keep QuickBooks Up To Date

Posted by taxguru on August 19, 2006

 

Q:

Subject: BACKUP RESTORE PROBLEM
 
PLEASE CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS PROBLEM THAT I AM HAVING WITH MY BACK UP QBB FILE,I RECENTLY HAD TO DO A COMPLETE INSTALL OF MY OS  AND HAD TO INSTALL QBOOKS 2006 AGAIN NOW I CANT RESTORE MY BACKUP FILE IT SAYS UNABLE TO DERTERMINE VERSION ON QBB FILE AND WILL NOT RESTORE BACK UP PLEASE HELP THANK YOU

 

A:

It sounds as if you didn’t run the “Update QuickBooks” function after you reinstalled the program.

If the QBB file had been made with an up to date version of QB 2006, it might not be accessible with an un-updated version.  Some of the changes they make during a version’s year on the market are major enough to cause problems like the one you have.

After you have the program install all of its to-date updates, try to restore the QBB file and you should have better luck.

Let me know if this works for you.

Kerry Kerstetter

 

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Kinder & gentler tax collectors?

Posted by taxguru on August 17, 2006


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