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Archive for June, 2007

Skirting Gifting Limits

Posted by taxguru on June 14, 2007

Q:

Subject: Question about gifting

I understand the $12,000 limit for individual gifting, but I have a scenario I would like your opinion.

What if parents want to gift equal amounts of money to their 2 grown children; both are married, but one has 2 children, the other no children? So for Family A (with 2 kids) the maximum gift is $96,000 while for Couple B (no kids) the maximum gift is $48,000. Now can Family A gift Couple B $24,000 so that each child has received $72,000 from the parents without any tax consequences?

A:

You wouldn’t believe how often that kind of re-gifting scheme comes up when people ponder ways in which to “out-smart” the annual tax free gifting limits. 

It’s not allowed and would be considered fraud if IRS were to discover it. A true bona-fide gift can’t have any conditions on it, especially that the money be given to someone else.

If you want to stay under the annual limits, there are a number of ways in which to accomplish the kind of equal distribution that you are desiring.

The simplest is to merely wait until the beginning of the next calendar year, when there is a new $12,000 per donor per donee limit available, and gift the childless couple the additional money.

A common technique used to get the cash into the childless couple’s hands now, without exceeding the limit, is to loan them the extra amount now and then forgive that debt in future years as gifts in those years.

There are also a few types of transfers that aren’t considered gifts subject to these limits.  The most common types are payments for medical and education purposes.  Depending on the circumstances involved here, if the parents were to pay for the childless couple’s college tuition and/or medical care, those amounts can be in addition to the $48,000 of direct cash payments.

As you can see, it can get tricky; so the services of a good professional tax advisor would be advisable.

Good luck.  I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter
 

 
Follow-Up:

Dear Kerry,

Thank you for your answer. Your reply broke the tie. My CPA says the same thing as you did.

My father’s CPA says there is nothing wrong with the “scheme.” He says after you gift the money, the person receiving the money then makes his/her own gift to the 3rd party and he/she is allowed to. But I think that the spirit of the gift limits, and the intentions of the gifting is what is at issue.

Thanks again.

 

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Tooth taxes?

Posted by taxguru on June 11, 2007

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Posted by taxguru on June 10, 2007

Don(’t Infl)ate Gifts to Charity! – Good look at the tighter rules for donating non-cash items to charity, from Gail Buckner.

 

 

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Posted by taxguru on June 10, 2007

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IRS Research Program

Posted by taxguru on June 10, 2007

Heads up for another one of IRS’s random selections of individual tax returns for an in-depth examination in order to update their top secret DIF scoring program to select the tax returns with the highest likelihood of cheating. 

According to this announcement from IRS, this go-around should be less burdensome than their previous such studies, with much fewer returns being selected than had been used in the past; 13,000 lucky taxpayers instead of the more common 45,000.

I understand how this may be a necessary evil of the tax system; but one aspect of it still reeks of unfairness. Those folks lucky enough to be among the 13,000 randomly selected to assist IRS in this study will still have to personally bear the full cost of going through the audit process, which can easily run into several thousands of dollars in professional fees, to say nothing of any additional taxes that may be assessed as a result. 

I realize that it’s crazy to expect IRS to consider fairness in the equation; but it would dramatically increase any goodwill they ever expect to have if they would reimburse taxpayers for the costs incurred while assisting in an IRS research project.  It just seems proper that the party benefiting from the study should bear the expenses of conducting it.

 

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Posted by taxguru on June 9, 2007

Using Real Estate to Build Your Retirement Portfolio – Using self directed IRAs to invest in real estate can be a much more reliable method of amassing wealth than gambling on the stock market.

 

 

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What isn’t taxed?

Posted by taxguru on June 8, 2007


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DemonRats Seek Formula To Blunt AMT – In their typical Marxist fashion, their solution is to hit the evil rich with even more punitive taxes. Remember that, once accepted as a valid technique, the breaking point for when this surtax applies can always be lowered. The 10% millionaire surtax in the 1993 Clinton-Gore tax increase actually kicked in at $250,000; so the definition of evil rich is entirely flexible and subject to the whims of our crazy imperial rulers in DC. 

 

Wesley Snipes Plays Race Card – The fact that he was an idiot to buy into an already disproven tax protestor scam has nothing to do with the IRS’s prosecution of him for tax fraud?   Can you say “grasping at straws” on his way to the clink for being as much of a moron as Richard Hatch?

 

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