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Posted by taxguru on March 11, 2005

Q:

Subject: quickbooks question

Hello. I found your website doing a google search and learned alot from that little bit. I am a house framer. I am currently using quickbooks contractor ed. I can build a house with my eyes closed, but when it comes the the bookeeping thats another story. I was wondering if you can answer a question for me. I wanted to switch versions to the QB Simple Start 2005. I already bought the software, but haven’t started using it yet. All I use it for now, is to enter the transactions directly from my checking account. Nothing fancy, just something for my accountant to use. I wanted to know the best, and easiest way to go thru this transition. I was thinking once she (accountant) is done with last years taxes, I could take all those figures and start fresh with it in the new program and take it from there. Do you have any advise you could offer on this topic? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. 

 

A:

Stay away from the Simple Start program and stick with a regular version.

You can see lots of tips on using QB on my website

including a link to my review of the Simple Start program.

Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter

 

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Structuring 1031 Exchanges

Posted by taxguru on March 11, 2005

Q:

If I wanted to do a sec 1031 exchange with say 7 properties (residential rental apt
buildings), each of which are in their own S Corp, in exchange for 1 property of equal or higher value (also rental property),   how is best way to structure transaction?

If you form a Partnership of the 7 S Corps & then do the Exchange, how is ownership of replacement property handled?

Can 1 of the former S Corps own the new property, or would a new S Corp have to be formed as 100% owner?

Thank you,

 

A:

 Since the names on the titles of the original and replacement properties need to match, there are at least a few ways in which to accomplish this that I can readily think of.

The seven different properties can be transferred into one person or entity’s name and then they can be swapped for the new property.

The easier way, and one which I have often seen done is to have each of the seven property owners exchange their property for a certain percentage of the new property.  You would use percentages sufficient to cover the equal or higher value of their old properties to cover the exchange replacement requirement. 

Later, after the dust has settled from the acquisition, the seven different entities can possibly fine tune the ownership by contributing their portions of the new property to a new entity, if that is what you want to do.  There are also several other ways you could go, including leaving the ownership divided among the seven corps, or even merging the seven corps into one.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter

 

Follow-up Q:

Kerry:

Thanx so much for the prompt reply.    I have 2 more  questions re the 1031 exchange, if you have the time to reply, I really do appreciate it.

If you are looking for property of equal or greater value as the replacement property,
what evidential matter is sufficient for IRS to establish proper mkt value of the replacement property?    Is independent appraisal for both properties sufficient?

Finally, a real estate agent advised property owner that to affect a tax free exchange, he would only have to find replacement property equal to or more than what the profit would be on the property, had it been sold & not exchanged.  

I thought you have to find new property at least with mkt value of the old property, unless there are mortgages involved on either or both properties.   Who’s correct?

Thanx again,

A:

For the 45 day identification list, values don’t even have to be shown unless you are using the 200% Rule.  For this purpose, you can use the listing prices or your best guesstimates of their values.  IRS is mainly concerned that the property that is acquired as the replacement is on the ID list and rarely looks into the total values on that list.

For  replacement purposes, it is a commonly held misconception that you only have to reinvest equal or higher than the profit.  I am constantly asked if a person can recover their investment from the sale and roll over the profit.  The answer has always been a big NO.

The target replacement price to have a completely tax free exchange is the net sales price of the old property.  This is the gross price less the direct selling costs (commissions, escrow fees, etc.).  Unlike another commonly held misconception, it is not reduced by mortgages on the old property.

Whatever the target price is missed by is considered as boot and is taxed.  IRS does not allow people to designate the boot as recovery of cost.  It is profit.

We don’t make the rules.  We just try to help people understand them properly.  Unfortunately, in spite of  the hundreds of seminars I have presented to Realtors around the country on this very topic, there are still many who don’t properly understand the details of 1031 exchanges and pass along incorrect info that could very easily get them into serious trouble if someone were to actually act on it, such as your example.  That Realtor is just itching for a lawsuit from a client who acquires a too inexpensive replacement property and ends up with taxable profit. 
I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter

Final Response:

 Kerry:

Thanx again for all your info.   I too am a CPA, for many years, with a 1 man practice here in Westchester County, NY. 

This is my first exposure to actually planning for a 1031 exchange & I knew the real estate agent was incorrect, but just needed another professional’s confirmation, which is what you gave me.

If I have any other questions, I will try to keep them to a minimum, as I know we are both going thru the crazy tax season, this being my 34th!

Regards,

 

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Posted by taxguru on March 11, 2005

Florida Lawmaker Seeks Toilet Paper Tax – It’s hard to know whether this is a joke or not, with quotes like these from the rulers down there:

 pay-as-you-go

the idea is likely to pretty quickly end up in the tank

We’ll be getting to the bottom of it real soon

we’ll certainly let it go through the system

 

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Human Evolution?

Posted by taxguru on March 9, 2005

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Posted by taxguru on March 9, 2005

Twenty-somethings Weigh Whether It Makes Sense to Hire a Tax Pro – What’s even more important in a pure dollars sense, is having a tax advisor who can help people reduce the amount they pay in Social Security & Medicare taxes.  With annual savings of over $10,000 per year possible, those people who start such a strategy early can easily save hundreds of thousands of dollars over their working career that can be put to much better use than feeding the addictions of the spendaholics in DC.  There’s no need to wait until our rulers in DC get off their butts and allow personal ownership of Social Security money.

 

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No Escape

Posted by taxguru on March 8, 2005

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Posted by taxguru on March 8, 2005

U.S. Already Has a Flat Tax, and It Isn’t Pretty – It’s the insane AMT.

 

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Posted by taxguru on March 8, 2005

Tax Advice for Owners of Vacation Rentals

 

Fixed-Rate Mortgages Become Less Expensive

 

The Onion’s survey of opinions on adopting a national sales tax

 

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Posted by taxguru on March 8, 2005

Not that that they’re particularly rare, but Ohio CPA Dana Stahl passes along a few more examples of why we can’t trust the mainstream media for tax related news.

Close The Tax Gap – With its fabricated size.  As I’ve explained on several occasions, the mysterious “tax gap” of uncollected taxes, is absolutely impossible to ascertain with any degree of accuracy, so IRS spokespersons like to pull big huge numbers out of their butts in order to scare up more money and power for themselves.  I guess this writer covers his rear by using the term “estimated,” but I think my description of WAG (wild ass guess) is a lot more accurate.

 

Greenspan raises a few hackles  – I’m sorry; but anyone who insists on blaming the deficit on tax cuts and refers to the fictitious Clinton surpluses as anything but the figments of a wild imagination, is either a complete idiot or a liar on the scale of the Clintons, or more likely both.  

 

Unfortunately, these kinds of stories, as dictated by the DemonRat Party, are far too common in the dwindling mainstream media. 

 

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Posted by taxguru on March 5, 2005

Randy Bish has some ideas for changing our most often used income tax form:

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