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Bogus Sec. 179 News

Posted by taxguru on December 7, 2007

Q:

Subject: 179 Inuiry

 

I like your weblog.  I heard the 179 deduction for 6,000 lb vehilce is going to be eliminated in 2008? True?  Also, in general, what is the best entity as a real estate broker?  S Corp? Thanks for feedback.

 

A:

You are the victim of either a hoax or, more likely, bad and outdated info on the Section 179 deduction, which is very prevalent on the web.  As you can see on my Section 179 web page, the only change for 2008 is a higher maximum. 

I have a suggestion for anyone who hears or sees notices of changes such as you are questioning.  Demand that the person making the claim provide documentation of that fact beyond just that he heard it from someone.  Until a rumor has been properly documented, it should not be trusted or in any way relied on.  I am frankly getting a little tired of debunking these kinds of unsubstantiated rumors, where people try to put me on the spot to prove that something hasn’t been changed, when the burden of proof in this kind of situation should rest on those who claim that an actual change has been enacted.

In regard to the best entity to use, that is a decision that must be made with the assistance of a qualified professional tax advisor, who can properly analyze all of the unique details involved.  There is no such thing as a one size fits all approach to this kind of thing and anyone who claims that there is should be avoided.

Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter

 

Follow-Up:

Thank you for the time to reply at length.  Best,

 

 

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Posted by taxguru on December 6, 2007

A Taxing Job I have already started warning people that the confusion surrounding the Insane AMT is going to make this coming tax season quite messy, especially if a last minute patch is finally passed by our rulers.  IRS tax forms have already been printed and we will have to make sure our tax software has been updated to supersede those forms that do it yourselfers will have to cope with.   

 

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Section 179 Limit for 2008

Posted by taxguru on December 6, 2007

Q:

Subject: Section 179

Hello Kerry,
I have been searching for the 2008 section 179 dollar limits and your website is the only place I have found an amount.  Would you be willing to share with me where you found this information?

Thank you,

A:

I have also been amazed at how few other professional tax reference services have updated their Section 179 info.  Some, such as the CFS Quick Reference, still have outdated 2007 numbers ($112,000 instead of $125,000).

I posted the new 2008 limit on my blog back in September based on the CCH inflation adjustment calculations.

In October, IRS confirmed all of the CCH figures in Rev Proc 2007-66  which they announced in this press release.

Here is the exact quote from page 14 of that Rev Proc:

.20 Election to Expense Certain Depreciable Assets. For taxable years beginning in 2008, under § 179(b)(1) the aggregate cost of any § 179 property a taxpayer may elect to treat as an expense can not exceed $128,000. Under § 179(b)(2) the $128,000 limitation is reduced (but not below zero) by the amount by which the cost of § 179 property placed in service during the 2008 taxable year exceeds $510,000.

I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter


 Follow-up:

Thank you very much.  I actually did look at REV PROC 2007-66 but not in much detail since it seemed to look more for individuals and not for businesses. 

 

 

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New SUV & Sec. 179 Income Limits

Posted by taxguru on December 4, 2007

Q-1:

Hi,

Very impressive website. I have a question and would be grateful if you can help.

I am an independent contractor on the side and also have a full time job. My independent contractor job pays me without tax deductions and I am expected to pay my own taxes. I have made about 15,000 this year. I am thinking of buying an SUV that meets the IRS rating of over 6000lbs for my independent contractor job, but I am worried that I might not have made enough to deduct the 25,000 IRS deduction. Can I add  my AGI from my full time job to qualify for this deduction or is there another way of doing this. 

 

thanks.

 

A-1:

I have covered this point on several occasions.

It is possible to use other kinds of earned income, including from W-2s, to allow a higher Section 179 deduction than just the net income showing up on your Schedule C. 

However, this is not something you should try figuring on your own.  You need to be working with a professional tax advisor, who will be able to help you properly avail yourself of the hundreds of tax issues that you would most likely screw up on your own.  Any good professional tax advisor will save you much more in taxes than his/her fee; so you would be nuts to tackle your 1040 by yourself. 

Likewise, a good tax advisor may see that it would be advantageous for you to operate your business in a corporation instead of as a Schedule C sole proprietor, another topic I have discussed on countless occasions.

Good luck.

Kerry Kerstetter

 

Q-2:

Hi,

Thank you very much for your reply. I checked your website for tax pros in North Carolina but none was listed. Do you know of any in North Carolina. Thanks again.

 

A-2:

Those are the only names I have.

As I have said in my tips for selecting a tax advisor, as well as in countless blog posts, choosing tax pro merely based on geographical proximity is misguided.  A good tax pro could be anywhere in the country and give you even better service than someone who happens to be right next door to you. 

Good luck.

Kerry

 

 

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Facing off with the Insane AMT

Posted by taxguru on December 1, 2007


What the “Alternative Minimum Tax” Really Means for American Families – As if the regular tax code isn’t difficult enough to maneuver in, we now have to do more to work with the idiotic and Insane AMT rules. More costly neglect by our imperial rulers in DC.

Here is what the TaxCoach service has for an introduction on avoiding the AMT:

Alternative minimum tax (“AMT”) is a parallel tax designed to prevent “the rich” from using regular deductions to avoid tax entirely. In 2005, it hit 3 million taxpayers nationwide, primarily in states with high income and property taxes. (This includes IRS Commissioner Mark Everson, who announced in 2004 that he had been hit for the first time.1) But the tax is not indexed for inflation, and by 2010, it’s expected to hit 30 million, including 94% of married filers with children making $75,000 to $100,000.

The AMT system starts with regular taxable income then adds “preference items.” These include:

    • Medical expenses between 7.5% and 10% of AGI
    • State and local taxes deducted on Schedule A
    • Home equity interest not used to buy, build, or improve your home
    • Miscellaneous itemized deductions
    • Investment interest figured according to special rules
    • A portion of post-1986 accelerated depreciation
    • Gains from incentive stock options (“ISOs”)
    • Interest from most “private activity” municipal bonds

Once you’ve determined AMT income, subtract an exemption of $62,550 (joint filers), $42,500 (single filers), or $31,275 (separate filers) (2007). These exemptions phase out by 25 cents for every dollar of AMTI above $150,000 (joint filers), $112,500 (singles), or $75,000 (separate filers). The tax itself is 26% of AMTI up to $175,000 plus 28% of AMTI above $175,000.

Here are eight ways to help avoid the AMT:

  • Don’t prepay state income and property taxes in years you’re subject to the AMT.
  • Avoid private activity municipal bonds.
  • Defer exercising ISOs where it makes investment sense.
  • Capitalize, rather than deduct, investment expenses
  • Schedule business equipment purchases when you can use your full depreciation deductions.
  • If your employer reimburses business expenses, make sure you have an “accountable” plan to keep them off your return.
  • Defer recognizing capital gains. These gains are taxed at the same 15% rate as for ordinary income; however, they increase taxable income subject to the AMT.
  • Consider emancipating college-age children. The AMT disallows personal exemptions, so there’s no extra tax to pay by giving them up. Letting children claim those exemptions can save tax and qualify them for more generous financial aid.

Tax Savers

If your regular tax is higher than the AMT rate, accelerate income into a year when you pay the AMT. You’ll save up to 9% if you can shift income that would otherwise be taxed at the top bracket into an AMT year.

 

TaxCoach Software: Finally! Plain-English Tax Planing That Builds Your Business!

 

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Shifting Corp Income?

Posted by taxguru on November 30, 2007

Q-1:

Subject: RE: Fiscal Year

Kerry,

I read your online article I have a question with respect to the following paragraph:

Fiscal Year
One of the most useful tools in the tax game arsenal is the ability to shift income between taxable years.  Individuals report their taxable income based on the January 1 to December 31 calendar year.  S corporations are required to also use the calendar fiscal year, allowing no opportunity to shift income between years.  C corporations, however, can end their fiscal year at the end of any month.  The first tax return will almost always be less than a full 12 months, so don’t worry about coordinating it with the incorporation date.  How this saves on taxes is pretty straight forward.  Toward the end of your personal fiscal year (12/31), you bleed off some of your taxable income to your C corp by paying it for something like rent or marketing services.  In January, your corporation can pay it back to you.  Near the end of the corp’s fiscal year, bleed its net profits out by paying yourself This back and forth income shifting can go on for a long time.  Sometimes income is never taxed; or if it is, we make sure that it is taxed at the lowest rate possible (15%).

Specifically,
  
I am a physician, a radiologist to be exact.  I am currently in the military, and I owe 2.5 more years.  In addition to my “day job”, I do moonlighting for various local locum tenens agencies.  I followed the pattern of some other people here, and got hooked up with an accountant here who got me set up in some entities.  I do not know if this is the right way to go for my particular situation.  I am in essence a “sole proprietor” in that it is just me, as a physician, doing this work.  My goals were to provide a liability shield, and tax advantage.

How this is set up is: I have a S-type professional corporation under the auspices of which I take on these local jobs, either on a daily or a weekly basis.  This is strictly a fee-for-service type arrangement.  The accountant also had me set up a traditional C-Corporation as a management entity. His plan is that the money I earn from my moonlighting each month (in the professional S-corp) is paid to the management C-corp.  He made the tax year-end dates for the S-corp 31Dec, but gave the C-corp a 31 Jan end, ostensibly putting the taxes on those earnings off a year.

My question boils down to the legitimacy of shifting my S-corp income to the C-corp to avoid the taxes; doesn’t the IRS flag this arrangement, which I believe is what you are refering to in your article?

Thanks,

 

A-1:

It sounds like you are working with a good tax advisor, if you believe in using legal means to minimize your tax bites.  That sounds exactly like scenarios I have set up for clients, which I learned from other tax pros before me.  Shifting income in this way isn’t avoiding taxes.  It allows you to control the timing and rate at which you pay taxes on your income. 

As long as all of the transfers and shifting are done properly and consistently, you are not breaking the laws.  IRS would obviously prefer that people just bend over, grab their ankles, and not do such things and just continue to pay them higher and higher taxes every year; but if you do take proper steps, under the guidance of an experienced tax pro, that is your right to do.

Whether taking legal steps to reduce your taxes is an unpatriotic thing to do is something I have been accused of my entire career. 

My guiding philosophy has always been the following 1934 quote from Judge Learned Hand:

“Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.”

Good luck.  I hope this helps.

Kerry Kerstetter


Q-2:

Thanks, Kerry, for the quick reply.  I guess what I really meant to ask you is about the part where you say “…In January, your corporation can pay it back to you.  Near the end of the corp’s fiscal year, bleed its net profits out by paying yourself…”

I get the point about bleeding the money out of the S-corp to the C-corp as a “management” fee, but not about how to legally get that money back to the S in January, so that the “shift” can go on. 

One last thing,  is it legitimate in your opinion for me to in fact “shift” 100% of my profits in the S corp to the C corp?  That is what my current CPA is having me do.  I have taken no salary nor distributions from either account.  I have however, repayed to myself the original money I put in to both entities from my personal account to open the business accounts.  I have heard some sources say that this is a no-no, as the IRS my somehow consider this a “second class of stock” and revoke your S-status?

I may be looking for a new CPA… any interest? You obviously know this game quite well.

Thanks,

 

A-2:

The shifting of income back and forth is a very common technique.  Various methods can be used, such as leases and royalties, or a catch-all category of Business Services, to accomplish full deductibility on the return from which it was paid. 

Having just a one month overlap in the tax year-ends makes it a little tighter time-wise to plan the amounts needed to shift, but it is entirely possible to do.

It’s not always necessary to bleed out 100% of the net profit; but that’s a judgment call made with the assistance of your professional tax advisor, who will need to work with up to date accounting info.  The weak link in this game plan is almost always out of date bookkeeping, making it a shot in the dark in regard to determining how much income needs to be shifted.  The more up to date the books are for all of the entities involved (1040, 1120 and 1120S in your case), the more effective the income shifting will be.

I wish I could be more help; but I already have too many clients to take care of properly; so we are still trimming back on the difficult clients and are not accepting any new ones at this time. 

Unfortunately, we don’t have anyone specific to whom we could refer you. I did recently post some names and links for some like-minded tax pros around the country. 

If you haven’t already done so, you should check out my tips on how to select the right tax preparer for you. 

I wish I could be of more assistance; and I wish you the best of luck.  

Kerry Kerstetter

 

  

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How our rulers continue to address the Insane AMT…

Posted by taxguru on November 29, 2007

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Winning the lottery?

Posted by taxguru on November 29, 2007

State mistakenly sends man check for $2,245,342 – A bit more than the $15 he was expecting. This man did the right thing and sent the check back. The Utah officials claim they would have eventually noticed the mistake if he had cashed it and would then ask for the money back. However, with that much dough, who knows where he would actually be by that time?

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Posted by taxguru on November 29, 2007

There used to be a saying warning not to take any wooden nickels. That has to be updated now to don’t take any million dollars bills, after this idiot in South Carolina actually tried to deposit this bill into a bank account.

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Posted by taxguru on November 29, 2007

IRS and States Team Up on Payroll Taxes – Not really a new technique; but more of a warning that IRS and the States are desperate for those lucrative payroll taxes that are avoided when working with independent contractors instead of W-2 employees.

Another reason to check out using corporations.  I have known several small businesses that refuse to hire employees and will only utilize workers who are incorporated because only humans can be employees and corporations are not human. When you hire human employees, you allow our rulers in government to dictate every aspect of that relationship.  This is only going to get worse, as employers are forced to provide higher wages and more benefits and are at the same time denied the ability to fire people because of the ever increasing number of categories of discrimination criteria.  Working with corporations is a much purer form of capitalism and free market economics than is ever possible with employees.

 

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